The Real Mileage of an Electric Truck
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Matt,
I agree with you… except in Bellingham… not so sunny 8 months out of the year. Think enroute charging stations. More demand on the grid, rates go up, and Uncle Sam will have a lot to say about those rates.
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Solar panels still work when it's cloudy.
And ironically, the colder it is the more efficient they become.
Divad
Whitefish
I own a 2015 EcoDiesel Ram 1500 and since 14,000 miles it’s been completely deleted. No DEF, no DPF, no regen, no EGR and a mild tune.
I have 148k now on it and still no issues, along with three oil analysis not noticing anything premature. I get 27mpg @ 60mph with 34” tires.
Micro diesels are a feasible future if politics don’t nut punch diesel pricing trying to suade decisions.
Diesel’s being nut punched right now
I don’t get it except for some profiteering
wanderingrichard
Life of the Party
Another comparison to fan the flames
My wife bought a plug in hybrid. It gets 30 miles to a charge. She rarely buys gas.
We rarely drive more than 30 miles in a day.
I have considered buying an older bolt or similar for my commute. I don't drive more than 30 miles in a day often. Even if the battery is getting weaker, it probably only needs a range of 20-30 miles.
We are getting solar soon. The idea of being more self sufficient from an energy standpoint appeals to me. Not giving money to Saudi's and Russia is also appealing.
We rarely drive more than 30 miles in a day.
I have considered buying an older bolt or similar for my commute. I don't drive more than 30 miles in a day often. Even if the battery is getting weaker, it probably only needs a range of 20-30 miles.
We are getting solar soon. The idea of being more self sufficient from an energy standpoint appeals to me. Not giving money to Saudi's and Russia is also appealing.
RCF
Life of the Party
My daughter's boyfriend just bought an older Volt. He really likes it. He commutes 30 miles/day. 25 miles on the battery and 5 miles on gas. It costs ~$2.00/day to charge the battery up. (PSE rate ~$0.12/kwh x 17kw battery).
Flymph
Steelhead
How much diesel pollution am I breathing in?
People are increasingly being warned about the dangers of diesel pollution, but how much are we actually exposed to?
www.bbc.com
Diesel was being touted as less harmful to the environment?
wanderingrichard
Life of the Party
Somewhat. Most of the pollution is in the form of heavy hydrocarbons which stay low to the ground. Which is why cities get grey snow banks and road slush, and people hate them. Also why modern diesels here in the US are mandated to use uria DEF to counteract that effect.How much diesel pollution am I breathing in?
People are increasingly being warned about the dangers of diesel pollution, but how much are we actually exposed to?www.bbc.com
Diesel was being touted as less harmful to the environment?
Exactly.Why do you hate America ?
Modern diesels offer complete combustion of hydrocarbons (stoichiometry), but with that, the high combustion temperatures bond oxygen to atmospheric nitrogen creating NOx. Through a process of Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) , urea (NH), is introduced to the exhaust stream returning the NOx to nitrogen, oxygen, and water.
Flymph
Steelhead
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In 2014 we put 27 panels on our roof. Washington state had a program to help with that (I know, a subsidy). It provides a little less than half of our electrical demand, and it is a grid tied system so someone else is probably using the energy at the time it is produced. We are considering adding to it as we have a west facing roof that is unused as of yet and here in the coast range it is said that a west facing roof is almost as good as a south facing, because of the morning ocean induced overcast. I am also interested in putting them on the ground in racks for the ease of cleaning. We have the room.
Being retired, if an EV comes to our house, (we are considering it), it could be charging most days, as we are mostly at home.
Now I know this is not a big return investment, you can generally do better on stocks, but we both feel that it is the right thing to do and we are fortunate in that we can afford it.
There have been a lot of fairly negative opinions of the future of this technology in this thread, I guess that is fairly typical of the human race. We don't seem to like change, whether it is that danged contraption known as the telephone, or motorized vehicles, or men going to the moon. There have always been the naysayers. Our engineering capabilities have always proven them (mostly) wrong. We do need an incentive to get that engineering done though, and for business in America the incentive is profit. So in the past these new technologies have been subsidized. The fact we get electricity in our homes across America is in large part due to subsidies. Is that not a good thing? Sure it costs money, but if it were only the free market driving it, there would likely still be large parts of rural America that weren't hooked up. The people affected would have been less productive without that power, and our entire economy would have suffered.
The problem with those subsidies, is that when the new business achieves success, the subsidies should pass away but they don't. the successful businesses are now empowered financially and politically to entrench themselves in our economy and sometimes even our minds. The oil and gas industry is a huge success, and doesn't need a nickel of the taxpayers money to survive into the future, EVs or no EVs. There are so many useful materials made from petroleum it is almost a shame that we just burn it.
Incentives are subsidies that attempt to kick start the development of new markets or products, and I think in the grand scheme of things, and with honest people driving them they are a good thing.
Being retired, if an EV comes to our house, (we are considering it), it could be charging most days, as we are mostly at home.
Now I know this is not a big return investment, you can generally do better on stocks, but we both feel that it is the right thing to do and we are fortunate in that we can afford it.
There have been a lot of fairly negative opinions of the future of this technology in this thread, I guess that is fairly typical of the human race. We don't seem to like change, whether it is that danged contraption known as the telephone, or motorized vehicles, or men going to the moon. There have always been the naysayers. Our engineering capabilities have always proven them (mostly) wrong. We do need an incentive to get that engineering done though, and for business in America the incentive is profit. So in the past these new technologies have been subsidized. The fact we get electricity in our homes across America is in large part due to subsidies. Is that not a good thing? Sure it costs money, but if it were only the free market driving it, there would likely still be large parts of rural America that weren't hooked up. The people affected would have been less productive without that power, and our entire economy would have suffered.
The problem with those subsidies, is that when the new business achieves success, the subsidies should pass away but they don't. the successful businesses are now empowered financially and politically to entrench themselves in our economy and sometimes even our minds. The oil and gas industry is a huge success, and doesn't need a nickel of the taxpayers money to survive into the future, EVs or no EVs. There are so many useful materials made from petroleum it is almost a shame that we just burn it.
Incentives are subsidies that attempt to kick start the development of new markets or products, and I think in the grand scheme of things, and with honest people driving them they are a good thing.
The TVA...
Large parts of rural America are currently lacking in broadband access, but the political will does not seem to be there to do for rural communities in regards to broadband, what the TVA did for electrification.
Which is really too bad, and rather shortsighted in my view.
Very good post...
