I'm replacing a leaking Summit 2 valve in my Outcast Pac 900 pontoon boat. It's leaking at the valve stem area.
I contacted Outcast/Aire repair dept. by phone and spoke with Ryder there.
I will say he was one of the best I've ever dealt with in any service position I've needed help from.
I explained the issue and he told me to first try cleaning the valve with rubbing alcohol and Q tips by locking the valve in the open position and swabbing the area inside the valve seal and rim the valve seals against.
He explained that 90 plus % of summit valve leaks are from sand or dirt of some sort getting inside the valve causing it not to seal. He said I don't want you to spend your money needlessly if you don't have to.
Well, I did the swabbing trick and reinflate pontoon trick 3 times without success. The valve was no good.
I began to remove the valve with the plastic wrench that comes with the boat.
That s.o.b. was stuck so hard I couldn't budge it. I was afraid the wrench would break. I had removed the air and could not get a firm enough grip on the bottom valve section through the vinyl of the pontoon to keep it from turning when I turned the wrench.
I fashioned a cheater pipe for the wrench.
By gripping the very top of the bottom valve section by pulling the hole liner material down around the valve I got a much firmer grip. I put the cheater pipe on the wrench and with all the strength I could muster was able to get the valve broke loose. Surprised as hell the wrench didn't break.
I called Ryder back to order the new valve and asked what trick is there to remove severely stuck valves. He said keep the pontoon inflated as the air pressure will hold the valve bottom in place while you loosen the top section.
Wow, I wish I'd have known that

Anyway I asked to order 2 valves since I have an Outcast float tube too I wanted a spare just in case.
Ryder asked how old my boat is and I said 6 or 7 years. He said since less than 10 years old he'd only charge me for one valve. I was happy with that.
We talked about the potential of plastic wrench breaking and said he'd sell me a metal $30.00 wrench at wholesale for $17.00.
I bought the wrench too.
I had a great learning experience and saved a little money thanks to Ryder, a top notch repair technician at Outcast/Aire.
