Deer are the deadliest animals in America, but no one is talking about reintroducing them in popular recreation areas.Aren't more people killed by hitting deer than by predator attacks?
Lotta wealthy auto dealers strutting around in spite of their heinous crimes. Come on Rob you can do better than that.
No. Because it would be dishonest and slanted to their already chosen agenda.Wouldn't an answer from NCE in your favor prove both of you points?
I understand your discontent with the Fed. We battled the Army Corp of Engineers and FERC to stall and eventually stop the construction of a Dam on our local river. We had lots of help from many different organizations. In the end it was the local people who turned the tide in our favor. They did listen and it can be done. Understand, this was back in a time when even politically minded opposites came together for a common purpose.No. Because it would be dishonest and slanted to their already chosen agenda.
I had no expectations that the Feds would abandon their efforts to transplant Griz into WA. It sounds like they are at least starting with a 25 bear "test" population. But as I recall the "North Cascades Ecosystem" (NCE) extends south to I90 with a neighboring human population more than double of all the other "bear Ecosystems" combined.I am no longer able to make it back up into the remote North Cascades area I had been in before, and doubt that Griz will migrate south into the Central Cascades where I can still go before I'm gone. I'm also not a deer-elk hunter, so I'm pretty low on the stakeholder pole.
But do go talk to the landowners closest to the "release" area in the NCE that hasn't seen any Griz for 50-150 years. See see how they feel about it and the measures they will have to take. If they have objections convince them it's for good for their area.
Brian, with all due respect; why are you not afraid to fish/camp amongst a large population of black bears which statistically, are far more dangerous to humans?I had no expectations that the Feds would abandon their efforts to transplant Griz into WA. It sounds like they are at least starting with a 25 bear "test" population. But as I recall the "North Cascades Ecosystem" (NCE) extends south to I90 with a neighboring human population more than double of all the other "bear Ecosystems" combined.
Remember that according to Montana FW&P throughout the 201Xs, for every reported human - bear encounter, there was an average of 23% of the humans injured or killed, and 23% of the bears killed. When outward migration occurs, it won't be pretty.
But I suspect, or at least hope that the relocation will begin in the northernmost part of the NCE so I will likely not encounter one while I am still able to (often solo) hike into the backcountry to fish and camp.
As I stated earlier, I have had 2 fairly to very close surprise encounters with black bears (not carrying bear spray); the 1st and closest being a sow and cub that I managed to see and silently back away from before they saw me. At the 2nd encounter I was able to make myself appear larger by opening my jacket and extending my arms holding hiking poles up at 45° as recommended to make myself look larger and the bear retreated. That option doesn't work with Grizzlies.Brian, with all due respect; why are you not afraid to fish/camp amongst a large population of black bears which statistically, are far more dangerous to humans?
Wisdom from the easy chair?Without risks, it's not truly a wild place, it is a Disneyfied psuedoexperience, cleaned up for your safety.
Black fight back
Brown lay down
White good night
Bear responses.
The outdoors is not a sanitized playground, petting zoo, or otherwise 'safe space'. There are risks. Don't like the risks, don't take them. I have been a big supporter of wolves, grizz and other top level predators having a restored place in the ecosystem for decades. If I get taken out by one while recreating, oh well...and so it goes.
Without risks, it's not truly a wild place, it is a Disneyfied psuedoexperience, cleaned up for your safety.
There's enough of that type of thing already at your local dog park, or county nature trail.
Go Grizz !!!!
I know this is behind a paywall, but others seem to have a way around and some PNW papers pick up the story as well
This appears to be an update to previous WAPO article that I posted a while back
Pretty sure the deer already are in popular recreation areas? Does this warrant removing them?Deer are the deadliest animals in America, but no one is talking about reintroducing them in popular recreation areas.
Also, for that analogy to work out properly the deer would have to be intentionally put and kept in the middle of the road..
Oh great! Now ultra-light hikers are going to have to add pounds to their hiking kit for bear spray and a 10 mm Glock. That's equal to the weight of a tent and sleeping bag!