Yes, this late winter in April is a Godsend for the Central Oregon area and Oregon is general.
Oregon snowpack suddenly looking much better
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It's data, from this government agency. It's not cable news.
| Natural Resources Conservation Service
Cynicism of data is killing this country. Most of it is unfounded. It's straight data from the same site and places as all the years before.
I link to the same one each time. But I was looking around and depending on how you enter the site and the variables that are selected the results are what varies. I need to make sure I'm looking at apples to apples, or water content to water content, or whatever choice of monitoring is.It's data, from this government agency. It's not cable news.
| Natural Resources Conservation Service
www.nrcs.usda.gov
Cynicism of data is killing this country. Most of it is unfounded. It's straight data from the same site and places as all the years before.
Most of what are presented is not data. We get plots that are someones interpretation of the data compared to what they feel is normal!It's data, from this government agency. It's not cable news.
| Natural Resources Conservation Service
Cynicism of data is killing this country. Most of it is unfounded. It's straight data from the same site and places as all the years before.
NRCS gives us a % based on what they think is normal. Their normal may be based on a motive to lobby Congress.
Cynicism is healthy..always question the data and consider the motivation of the source.
The NRCS plots are NOT data they are digital interpretations of the data.
Cynicism is not healthy, skepticism is. NRCS is data, and it is not based on what someone "thinks" is normal - it is the median of readings from the same locations for a given date from 1991 to 2020.
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Sorry we disagree, NRCS is not data it is a percentage of something. Your Prineville plot is data...not an interpretation. I really like the plot you provided.
Yes, the Prineville Reservoir is data, a figure shows the current level compared to last year and the 20 year average, which is virtually the same as the NRCS, the only difference is the NRCS is showing current against the 30 year median (rather than mean), a different representation, showing the individual sites - I would encourage you to go to the interactive map - see the data for yourself - it is not an interpretation.
Interactive Map
www.nrcs.usda.gov
Cheers
The entire east side of the state is in desperate need of an acquifier recharge, which would take multiple years of average snowfall. To put things into perspective, Mt. Bachelor, an excellent snow measurement for the east Cascades, averages 462" a year...as of this morning, after a week of late season snow on the mountain adding over 3', total for the season is now 385". Gratefull for every inch of it, we still need more...a whole lot more. There have been ongoing meetings between farmers and water districts throughout the east side in which farmers are bing told to expect 20% to 40% of their typical allotments.
There is no silver bullet coming, we are just at the start of whatever the new normal is going to be, and all we can do is understand it, and live with it. Our course is as fixed right now as if entering the top of White Horse on the Big D...we can moderate the line to some degree, but other than that, off the hell we go...
There is no silver bullet coming, we are just at the start of whatever the new normal is going to be, and all we can do is understand it, and live with it. Our course is as fixed right now as if entering the top of White Horse on the Big D...we can moderate the line to some degree, but other than that, off the hell we go...
Not perfect, but dang it looks a lot better than a coupe weeks ago!
SSPey
loco alto!
Many areas need more than sustained average precip to recharge aquifers. With a long trajectory of groundwater depletion, they need above average precip combined with less use. I wouldn’t take that bet.
A lot less red that 2 weeks ago, a bit more on the way, but unfortunately, @SSPey is correct; the overall trajectory is bleak.
The point data in our area now shows about 100% for each station, however the symbolized shapefile map seems to show 10-15% less. The push of weather last week helped.
"April Showers bring....." Well, snow anyways, this helps, lookin' much better.
Mtnsaremyhome
Steelhead
Yep yep! crazy to go from low to "average" in a few weeks, the melt rate will be very important though...
Whoohoo! Fresh fishing report today from The Fly Fishers in Sisters say’s Deschutes county snowpack is now 103% of normal. That’s great news.
